Firefox VS. Google Chrome
07-24-2012, 11:10 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-24-2012, 11:14 PM by RichardGv.)
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RE: Firefox VS. Google Chrome
(07-24-2012, 05:32 PM)Jake Horsfield Wrote: I used to use Google Chrome as my main browser on all of my devices but now I've switched to Firefox.

Here's a couple of reasons why:
  • More sites are displayed correctly
  • Much more personalization options compared to other browsers such as Google Chrome and Opera.
  • I find that Firefox is much more stable and uses much less RAM than Google Chrome
  • Many add-ons available.


I'd recommend that anyone who hasn't tried Firefox, to do so. I bet that you'll stick with Firefox!

Chrome/Chromium probably runs slightly ahead of Firefox when it comes to HTML5/CSS3 support. They both use the HTML5 standard parser so parsing normal web pages shouldn't produce a difference -- I don't know if there's a problem for broken pages. Firefox may display some very broken pages more correctly than Chrome/Chromium, yet no significant differences.

As for stability, Chrome/Chromium does better in design, notably process isolation and sandbox. I have encounter numerous strange issues, freezes, and crashes on Firefox yet they rarely happen on Chrome/Chromium. However, I believe Chrome/Chromium uses much more memory than Firefox. Firefox also goes quite far ahead on extensions and customizations. Chrome/Chromium has a set of superior builtin web development tools.

After using Firefox for 7+ years, well, I bet I wish to switch to Chromium... If there isn't NoScript...

Huh, and, I'm talking about Firefox/Chromium on a PC.
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07-25-2012, 02:18 AM,
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RE: Firefox VS. Google Chrome
The only reason I have not and will not use Google Chrome is because I have de-Googled!

I have eliminated Google Analytics from all of my sites. I have closed my Google Webmaster Tools account and I do not use the Google search engine.

My thoughts are, I want Google to know as less about me and my businesses as possible!
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07-25-2012, 02:47 PM,
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RE: Firefox VS. Google Chrome
(07-25-2012, 02:18 AM)Moneyman Wrote: The only reason I have not and will not use Google Chrome is because I have de-Googled!

I have eliminated Google Analytics from all of my sites. I have closed my Google Webmaster Tools account and I do not use the Google search engine.

My thoughts are, I want Google to know as less about me and my businesses as possible!

Literally you cannot escape from Google's hands, at least not before you totally leave all computers, phones, and tablets. You could choose to block all Google Ads and Google Analytic codes on many sites you visit with Adblock or something similar, and totally reject to use Google Custom Search used on some websites, yet it's always very well possible that some services that keeps your statistics would share them with Google. For example, when you clicked on an ad whose provider has some cooperations with Google, Google could still be immediately informed about your click. Not to mention you are probably already using many Google sponsored projects, many software hosted on Google code, utilizing some software/website that uses Google Maps, meeting a website that uses Google Translate to translate its content, a blog hosted on Blogger, a video from YouTube, an image from Picasa, a chart generated by Google Chart, a website using Google-hosted libraries (like jQuery) or Google-hosted web fonts... And hey, even Firefox is sending some data to Google, by default.

Chromium is an open-sources project that is sponsored by Google. It's the underlying code base of Google Chrome, but it does not track your usages and reports them to Google (unless you strictly asked so), so you could try Chrome's features without installing Chrome:
http://www.chromium.org/Home
If you don't feel like building Chromium yourself, you may favor a third-party build, for instance, SRWare Iron: http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php
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No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
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07-26-2012, 04:50 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-26-2012, 04:51 AM by OmarFW.)
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RE: Firefox VS. Google Chrome
(07-25-2012, 02:18 AM)Moneyman Wrote: The only reason I have not and will not use Google Chrome is because I have de-Googled!

I have eliminated Google Analytics from all of my sites. I have closed my Google Webmaster Tools account and I do not use the Google search engine.

My thoughts are, I want Google to know as less about me and my businesses as possible!

As long as you use the internet at all, you can't really escape that. There's no reason for people to be afraid of Google though. If there were a good reason I would understand all the paranoia, but there isn't any evidence that Google is anything other than a progressively minded company.

And when you think about it, their empire only stretches across the territory of the internet. Do you know how much vaster normal parent companies are? There is likely a single company behind the soda you drink, the pants you wear, the phone you talk on, the computer you're using and the food you eat.

Google's influence on the internet is small in comparison and frankly, there are much scarier companies out there that could be in control of everything, so be thankful Google is actually a pretty cool one.
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07-26-2012, 06:40 PM,
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RE: Firefox VS. Google Chrome
(07-26-2012, 04:50 AM)OmarFW Wrote: There's no reason for people to be afraid of Google though. If there were a good reason I would understand all the paranoia, but there isn't any evidence that Google is anything other than a progressively minded company.
More than progressively minded company is a pulp which only goal is take over Microsoft when it comes to monopolies.

And naturally, there is a reason to be afraid, but people will not understand it until it's too late and they have turned into unpaid automatons at Google's service, rather than getting Google serving people.

I have not removed all Google related stuff from my sites because since the beginning I'm not easy to convince of their good will with the candy they have been given away for free, so I have limited my interaction with Google to let them come to crawl my site, and using their email and search engine services for my queries, a service that is actually somewhat mediocre but still the best among the other search engines.
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07-26-2012, 07:08 PM,
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RE: Firefox VS. Google Chrome
I use a spinoff of Google Chrome called SRWare Iron. For all intents and purposes it's identical to Chrome with the exception that it disables some of Google's user tracking, and is a little more secure. I used to love Firefox, but I've had it with the ongoing memory leaks that they've never solved. My browser was crashing multiple times a day consuming several gigs of memory. They provide no reasonable means to pinpoint which extensions might be causing it, and expect you to uninstall them one at a time - um, no I'm not spending several hours doing that. Chrome has all the extension that Firefox has these days anyhow, plus you don't have to keep rebooting your browser.
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07-27-2012, 12:26 AM,
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RE: Firefox VS. Google Chrome
(07-26-2012, 06:40 PM)MyDigitalpoint Wrote: More than progressively minded company is a pulp which only goal is take over Microsoft when it comes to monopolies.

And naturally, there is a reason to be afraid, but people will not understand it until it's too late and they have turned into unpaid automatons at Google's service, rather than getting Google serving people.

I have not removed all Google related stuff from my sites because since the beginning I'm not easy to convince of their good will with the candy they have been given away for free, so I have limited my interaction with Google to let them come to crawl my site, and using their email and search engine services for my queries, a service that is actually somewhat mediocre but still the best among the other search engines.

Exactly, Oracle, Microsoft, all these companies were once small and friendly.

(07-26-2012, 07:08 PM)OhioTom76 Wrote: I used to love Firefox, but I've had it with the ongoing memory leaks that they've never solved. My browser was crashing multiple times a day consuming several gigs of memory. They provide no reasonable means to pinpoint which extensions might be causing it, and expect you to uninstall them one at a time - um, no I'm not spending several hours doing that. Chrome has all the extension that Firefox has these days anyhow, plus you don't have to keep rebooting your browser.

Firefox exposes more probabilities for extensions developers, extensions could integrate better with the browser and the system, and being much more flexible. So, most popular Firefox extensions already have their Chrome ports, yet many deeply customizing extensions, NoScript, extensions that modify the appearance of the application totally like location bar enhancement extensions, could not be ported:
http://dafizilla.wordpress.com/2010/06/1...sions-api/

The another side of the coin is extension developers have more responsibilities to make sure their extensions are safe, and don't do memory leaks. Unfortunately, quite some of them haven't done the job well. After MemShrink project Firefox itself is hardly doing memory leaks, and the currently in-development Firefox 15 provided great improvement in "fixing" the memory leaks of extensions: (This page also provided much explanations of Firefox's memory leaking issues.)
https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/201...-on-leaks/
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No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
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