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Matrix-style vertical chicken farms
03-27-2012, 02:18 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-27-2012, 02:20 PM by RichardGv.)
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RE: Matrix-style vertical chicken farms
(03-27-2012, 12:12 AM)HiddenKnowledge Wrote: ...but I think you should atleast let them live a proper life...

The problem is on the expression "proper life"... A problem is, for example, is tolerating a chicken to overgrow until it dies proper, or prevent the situation by removing its brain proper? Please read the questions I asked in the first reply (or just refer to the diagram):
(03-09-2012, 12:27 PM)RichardGv Wrote:
  • What is more important for an animal? To be alive, or to be able to think? Is killing an animal moral, or killing his brain moral?
  • Which one is better, death (from overgrowth), living painfully with thinking ability, or living without the thinking ability?
  • Even if we think to live without thinking ability is better, do humans have the right to decide which choice is better for an animal who has the ability to think itself, when there's no way could we learn how it feels?

(03-27-2012, 12:12 AM)HiddenKnowledge Wrote: And no, I haven't killed a ant with my feet on purpose and I wouldn't kill a fly.

Huh, then you look like an in-born Buddhist... Or some sort of particularly kind man... I must have killed 20+ ants in my childhood... And I guess it is the case for most people. :)

(03-27-2012, 12:12 AM)HiddenKnowledge Wrote: I think you should look at animals the way you look at humans, after all, we are animals ourselves. You wouldn't cut the brains from a human, would you?

Hey, you cannot compare humans with other animals in this way, you don't eat humans, either, but you eat animals... Wait, you probably don't, vegetarian, I forgot... But applying the same principle ("look at animals the way you look at humans") you are effectively stating we are all devils since we eat meat... :)

Also, I may cut the brains from humans if it's "proper", or at least I cannot guarantee I won't... During the thousands of years of history of China, there were numberous periods of time, during which because of continuous wars, corrupted government, or natural disasters, there was not enough food, and people ate and traded human meat, from people died from starvation, diseases, or just killed for food. Some people didn't feel like eating their children, so they exchange their children with others and ate the exchanged children. Humans were traded publicly as "Food-man". When Huang Chao's rebel force was besieged (about 880-882 A.D.), they caught civilians everywhere, and ate them. (They called humans "sheep with two legs", by the way.) Hmm, even in quite recent years, 1960s, when The Great Chinese Famine came (the shortage of food was mostly caused by some aggressive government policies), it was quite common that sons/daughters ate their parents, or parents ate their children, sometimes just killed them for food. For example, it was reported that parents throttled their 8-year-old son and cooked him, and in Yibing, Hubei, some children were murdered and with their meat sold on the street as "rabbit meat". Some statistics (which may not be reliable enough) shows that 63 human-eating cases appeared in a single county, within only 3 months (there are 1200+ counties in China...), and in 3 years 1278 human-eating cases were reported in a province. Surely, before people start getting short of food, almost everybody consider eating human meat a very sickening thing, and eventually they all did it!
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Matrix-style vertical chicken farms - by Vanilla - 03-09-2012, 05:23 AM
RE: Matrix-style vertical chicken farms - by RichardGv - 03-27-2012, 02:18 PM

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